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« on: March 06, 2010, 06:10:11 AM »

I'm having a little difficulty identifying a scale I've stumbled across  (or accidently created?) whilst creating a new song. I started with a standard blues pentatonic. Then by slightly 'adjusting' it, it started sounding a little Spanish. After writing a solo, I realised with a little further adjustment, it went back to it's original bluesy sound, but somehow kept it's Spanish twist. The notes are as follows;

B,D,E,G,A,B/B,D,E,G#,A,B - This is how I play it over 2 octaves...

Either the G or G# are an accidental, most likely. However, I've tried sharpening the G, and I've tried flattening the G#, but over a 2 scale run, neither sounded quite right :S ?

Any ideas JS?


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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 06:22:02 AM »

play us an example - maybe it's your instrument mix making that spanish sound? or too many tacos before you wrote it? lol. And can you make it stop scrolling I can't read that fast. Cool
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 06:29:59 AM »

And can you make it stop scrolling I can't read that fast. Cool
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B,D,E,G,A,B/B,D,E,G#,A,B



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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2010, 06:36:58 AM »

ah Das, you're so nice to me, lol.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 08:22:23 AM »

I haven't used it here yet. My dilemma is I need to know what scale it is, so I can figure out the key, which helps with chord selection :S
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 01:05:39 AM »

Its not a scale but rather a mode, I think. But it could be the key of D (D, Bm, Em, A, G) Or the key of Bm same chords. Try it I may be wrong, but I don't think so. Cool
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 01:49:49 AM »

maybe this will help? According to this, mode refers to the spatial orientation of the notes used in the sequence. It's theory stuff... Huh
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 06:21:56 AM »

Its not a scale but rather a mode, I think. But it could be the key of D (D, Bm, Em, A, G) Or the key of Bm same chords. Try it I may be wrong, but I don't think so. Cool

Why thankye Smiley

My theory isn't the best. I am still only getting a grasp of "the circle of fifths" etc.
But the Bm Scale seems to fit, will start work on it now, see how it goes Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 09:51:08 AM »

years ago (and I mean yeeeeeears) this guy I knew made a relationship wheel -- you could turn the wheels to match up whatever went well together. I may still have it. I'll dig around, and if I find it I'll scan and post. As I remember it was very handy.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2010, 12:25:12 AM »

Yeah, wow, that'd be awesome if you can, wyotryot.

Sweet. What an awesome idea
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2010, 11:32:17 AM »

From info on the wiki page, I did this. It's Locrian mode (or scale).

http://www.jamstudio.com/Studio/FWSongShare.asp?SongNum=583197&SongId=583200

It's different from what you posted, but I think what you posted was incomplete, as far as a full scale is concerned.

does this sound like it?
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2010, 11:35:03 AM »

A second thought - could it be a tuning that you are thinking of?

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/alternatetunings/alternatetunings.html

although I don't see any tunings in particular that start with B.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2010, 11:40:24 AM »

I forgot to mention that Fsus is the closest I could get to the Fdim which it is supposed to be.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2010, 09:10:45 AM »

I forgot to mention that Fsus is the closest I could get to the Fdim which it is supposed to be.

Yeah, cheers dude. That pretty much fits Smiley

I can't tell you how much this helps. Thanks so much ^^


Might have to get to work on it ASAP.

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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 05:37:49 AM »

Getting to know someone when you dont speak his language is really hard. Same goes for understanding music but not knowing the theory well enough.

Youre talking about a scale, but what you posted is only a group of tones.

So my tip is to take some theory lessons. It really isnt so hard, getting the basics down is pretty easy tbh.

To still try and answer your question. It looks like the Dorian mode, but that depends on the chords youre playing. If you play this on top of a Bm then it could definitely sound Dorian coz it has the distinct minor 3rd (D) and major 6th (G#) combination. But play this on top of a C major blues and youre actually beboping  Shocked
If you play both the G and the G# then youre actually mixing 2 scales (switching from one to the other): B Aeolian (B C# D E F# G A) and B Dorian (B C# D E F# G# A)

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